Crypto Sentinel: Reporting Cybercrime in the Blockchain Era

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All right. So uh hi everyone. Um thank you so much for joining us for another session or another think tank session uh from our series where um community members present their projects and receive feedback and questions from the community. So the aim of these sessions is to support projects uh built within the community and um you know eventually take them one step further into their progress. So for today's session uh we're welcoming Gabby Dumitriu.

Welcome Gabby.

Hello. Hello. Hello. Pleasure to be here for the first time actually which is kind of interesting and cool of course. Thank you for joining us and thank you for taking the time to present your project.

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we're presenting here as you can see right. So yeah I'm fully committed.

Yeah Gabi's been with us to eat conference this year as well as a speaker. So yeah we're uh we're very well uh you know aware of the expertise here Gabby and we thank you for your support. So just a few words uh from us regarding the project that will be presented this uh this session. The project is called Cryptos Sentinel and tackles uh one of the most pressing challenges in digital asset ecosystem. It's quite the current so cyber crime right.

So with like just very briefly obviously we all know this that with the rise of cryptocurrencies we've seen an explosion in terms of fraud, fishing, hacking, ransomware attacks and so forth. Um, Cryptos Sentinel uh is actually steps in as a communitydriven blockchain brace reporting platform, if I can call it like that, uh, to counter these threats.

And I'm going to pass on the mic to you, Gabby, since you are the expert matter here, and we're going to we're going to listen to what you have to say on the matter.

Yeah, thank you. Thank you for Thank you for that. So yeah uh it's been a crazy crazy year right after the uh the buy bit hack actually because you know we all suffered after the by bit hack happened. So yeah uh I think I'm going to share my screen if this is okay with you guys so we can show you some uh slide that I've been preparing here so so you can better understand my you know my uh my profile and my background and what guide me here basically after almost a decade more than a decade basically. So, um, that's the joke that I like to say.

I'm older than Ethereum in this kind of situation. So, let me for a second so I can uh share my screen and let me know if it's okay. Right.

Right.

Good. Yeah.

So, so a bit about myself. Um yeah, this is all my mining gear from 2014 and now I'm basically doing no financial investigation in the crypto age. Uh all everything started back in 2012 when I registered a domain name when I was now trading domain names and I saw that there was a bit of issue in regarding to um Russians buying bitcoins to evade sanctions. So I thought to myself, well, let me see if brussian bitcoin.com it's a available or not.

It was available and I bought it and this is how everything started for me. I know that in the [clears throat] current context it's a little bit it's a little bit of you know crazy thing but this is how I started and then uh I started to you know deep dive into the blockchain and crypto everything and I managed to create a local currency in my hometown called Localis. I'm from Yash. So local plus Yash it's localist and I managed to gather like 10 local shops to join the the ecosystem and they were trying to understand wow what do you mean that I'm my own bank? Yeah.

So I built this token and I managed to you know create like a small community and show them why crypto is better than traditional finances. uh moving forward um uh yeah that's the setup that I was using to better showcase my my project and then uh actually that's my first um interview that I did in international press um cryptosp space initiative a very high-tech um um project with uh launching satellites in orbits people mining crypto to help international space station but that this project basically um created a lot of fuzz around my persona. So this is why I managed to to know more people in the space and um managed to um acquire more knowledge into into this. And then um in 2020 I won um uh global legal hackathon with um with a solution that was trying to help uh fashion designer to protect their uh um intellectual property on the fashion. So I built uh a tool that helps you protect interest to property.

Uh yeah, that's the team. That's Alexander. This is uh my face, pretty face from almost a decade ago. And then I managed to in the in the pandemics, I managed to showcase how you can use um Ethereum basically and NFTts uh as a creator, as a designer, as a painter to continue do your work and sell your work. uh in a in another way.

Yeah. And then of course in pidemic because I had a lot of time available, I managed to create a project that um helps people that are owners of EVs, electrical vehicles to charge their um to pay for, you know, for their consumption. Also, of course, because um I'm really interested into space, I also built like a blockchain blackbox for ISA, European Space Agency. Um the interface is built in lock view. I'm just uh you know uh trying to show you the um the uh the interest that I had along the time which guide me in the in the in the uh in the end to the forensic investigations and that's the uh the project that I had with one of my professor back in faculty.

We managed to create a system that allows you to um create digital calibration um certificates on blockchain. This is really cool interesting project for the local communities and for the university as well because we managed to in our research paper managed to um get like a slot on science direct which is really interesting because they were interested to see how we use the technology in a space that not you know uh the traditional methology or engineering is not that really open to new new tech such as blockchain but yeah we had quite a quite a I told you about the space. I also had a project called Yash in space. I managed to launch a helium balloon in space. I managed to create the first crypto transaction in Romania with an old token that is not here on planet anymore.

But yeah, that's me launching a helium balloon. Um and then I tackle with the biio banks uh creating u digital assets like u skin tissue or maybe um stem cells so on and so forth and then of course I try to uh show all the details in the local show on my local radio. Uh I have I have my own show called hit the beat teach them young that's for my kid also of course build token for my kid and that's the first uh that's the first exchange built in Romania which guide me to crypto forensic investigation that's the first thing that I did um yeah it's on Binance but that's my first tackle to crypto forensic investigation after I took all my certification and actually this is how investigation looks like what you see here are tens of transactions and tens and thousands of wallets involved. Of course, this is a portion of everything but um what I want to showcase is that um things are happening under our nose and the reality is that um some of the law enforcement agencies are really not ready for for this. So it's up to us people who build uh on web 3 to showcase what's uh what what matters and why it matters.

And yeah um everything started of course with the bid hack. We all know how it happened. Um it matters because you know a lot of money have been sold for thousand thousand of Ethereum have been stol via supply chain attack. Um, ever since um the attack, all the forensic investigation community uh try to you know um offer almost um for free um you know um their help, their skill, their knowledge to help people to recover the everything related to crypto scams. And also for the um for the breakdown just a few words um on how the the hack happened.

Of course, most of you know already, but just to uh show exactly how it happened. Um all the methodology uh there are so many but these are only a few few of them. Uh we all the we first get the alert or we get the um the address involved in a hack via a report which we will see after that. [clears throat] And we also imply forensic analysis techniques such as clustering, transaction flow mapping, behavior pattern analyzis and also traditional way but now we also have agentic AI which also of course speed up all the all the process. Um yeah so there are a lot of protocols to investigate a crypto scam available but what I've been um um you know investigating for the last year and a half the first is the threat detection that's the first thing that we need to pay attention to.

Of course we need to create like a risk assessment to see what's involved the amount of tokens that are involved. Um maybe there are multiple chains involved in the scam so on and so forth. Um asset tra uh tracing of course we we use multiple forensic investigation tool proprietary or available via uh you know well-known uh big players and of course attribution analysis. Basically here we trying to map the addresses with the well-known database with you know exchanges mixers tumblers uh dexes so on and so forth so we can better understand and create the the whole uh the whole map of the of the scale and of course evidence documentation where is available in the in the same time and in the end we create like a star which is suspicious activity report and based on that we uh go to the prosecutor and from that point uh because we as investigator we don't have jurisdictional um power to create um you know um to imply sanctions or to create forfeiture um um events on on an address of course though what I was telling you about the the enforcement coordination a lot of agenc uh prosecutors uh lawyers maybe countries ries or exchanges so on and so forth. And now let's see some forensic investigation tools in action.

I will switch the um the uh the screen here. I think I think I will stop sharing and move to the next one which is the tool exactly in place. One second so I can drag it here. Yeah. So I'll uh give you a few words regarding my my tool my crypto sentinel he's been built during my uh training uh when I was um having my crypto forensic investigation um uh training and after I finished uh the um the the training I was telling to myself wait a second I think I think I can actually do this because I've been in space for for so long and Oh yeah, which I did.

Um, and that's the tool in action. Second, I think that's the one. Share. You see it?

It should be here, right?

Yeah. Right.

Mhm. So uh this project basically offers a decentralized platform design know to empower individuals and I think organization uh in reporting cyber crimes um related to cryptocurrency and as you as you were seeing at the beginning with the rapid growth of blockchain technology and digital assets of course cyber crime unfortunately has become an increasing threat from fraud fishing attacks hacking ransomware you name it because the list is huge um you know all the and all the um other malicious activities within the crypto space it's I mean represents like a serious risk to to users to companies to to states even so uh this platform basically uses blockchain tech to create an immutable transparent and secure space where users can report suspicious activities because traditionally when you try to report the scam the first thing that came to your mind well what if my IP it's revealed. What if they can trace me? What if the bad guys are seeing that I reported the the um you know the hack or the address involved in a hack? So this is the the core um uh thing that drove drove me to create this like you know to create an um a pseudo anonymous way to uh report cyber crimes and also yeah it's not exactly anonymously it's pseudo anonymous because using um u forensic investigation you can see which address reported and that address at some point may be interacted with the centralized exchange.

change and via uh KYC and AML procedures. You can see the the real identity of the of the the person that's reported. But yeah, that's a long story. Uh so that project uh it's um the the audience basically are um cryptocurrency users, investors, exchanges, wallet providers, regulators, law enforcement agencies, and of course cyber security experts. each and every single one of them are interested to use at least in my opinion this kind of tool because uh it helps you validate reports.

It helps you um um for [clears throat] the for example for the regulators in law enforcement um agencies um they're not responsible for financial crime enforcement and regulatory uh oversight. they can access the platform in order to gather intelligence over the whole um ecosystems ecosystem sorry and the you know like a few features of of the uh of the tool are um of course the first and the main one the centralized reporting system user can submit detailed reports of cyber crime um and then the anonymity and privacy basically whistleblowers and victims of cyber crime can choose to remain you know anonymous when reporting or submitting the an address or a crypto project a scam. Um and also I managed to create like a system that creates um a validation uh process. Basically there are entities on on the project on the smart contract called validators and they are chosen amongst the you know um cyber security expert or maybe people from the community that are well known as the the good guys that are working um to you know validate and check and validate the the report. also managed to create um a system where I created uh a way to you know incentivize people to report and validate.

Uh I created a system that allows you to add a bug bounty for each and single each and every single one uh each wow each and every single uh report uh added on the system and also um the the core nature of the blockchain transparency. Uh all validated reports are publicly available on the blockchain and of course this allows exchanges, regulators and users to track trends and see um yeah the bad guys uh that are doing stuff online. Um yeah so there's a collaborative efforts with law enforcement which I uh working at this moment to gather as much as law enforcement agencies and um not exactly from Europe but you know across the world like Aeropole Interpol FBI um CIA um um and also um the the Asia the the because in Asia they they don't have Micah for example yeah We have Mika in Europe, they don't have it. We have for example MS 2 for cyber security in uh Europe, they don't. So there's um gap in legislation from my perspective that uh this tool tries to you know to fail to fill in and also um using the the data you can create statistics and analytics uh dashboard which is an in the works at the moment.

The idea is to provide the real time data on cyber crime trends including types of scam targeted cryptocurrencies uh geographical hotspot so on and so forth um and the impact that I've that I'm trying to uh achieve with this project is to um you know the platform basically addresses the pressing need for a secure and transparent system to report cyber crime um evolving cryptocurrencies and by offering an anonymous and decentralized way to submit reports. Um, Crypto Sentinel encourages more individuals to come forward and contribute to a safer digital um ecosystem and uh you know of as crypto adoption continues to grow the platform's role basically becomes uh critical in maintaining trust and security. And now let me show you how it works. I have multiple version because the first uh the first one was built to work on on Bitcoin and then I moved uh not that I wanted because but because I needed to on on BSC on Binance and the third iteration it's on uh it's on Capoleia on on Ethereum. I'll uh give you the full um the full platform the full working pro platform that works on Binance because it has more feature embedded at the first and uh as um Mika uh managed to gather more traction in Europe.

I thought to myself that uh I wanted to move full force on Ethereum but it wasn't fully compliant yet. So I'll show you the working product in the on that works on Binance. Of course I'll show you the on Sapolia as well. So the way it works is like this. First of all, let me first disconnect.

Yeah. Uh because I have uh my MetaMask connected hopefully. Let me double check. Uh now it's on. Yeah, it's on.

Yeah, it's on Binance. Right. Cool. So let me connect. Yeah.

Uh, refresh maybe. Come on, boy. Disconnect. [clears throat] You know that I built something really cool, but it's not working online. [laughter] I hope that not happened to me this time.

So,

it's always this.

So, Mhm. So, first you connect your wallet. Of course, I had to first disconnect everything because it was connected on Solia as you saw. Come on. Step by step, right?

And refresh the let cookies and in the end I promise on my Ethereum that it will work. So, it's a big promise. So, I have to make it work. So, connect. Yeah, told you.

[snorts] So we first connect with uh MetaMask because I hate uh managing accounts honestly and also I don't want to have user accounts security GDPR so on and so forth. So yeah, why using traditional methods when I can use like login with Metamax, right? [clears throat] So for example, I'll just put a random address. As you can see, I have many here reported. Uh let's say I don't know this one that end with F96.

Yeah, just to make sure I'll copy the address here so we can see it all here. Yeah, so that's the address that I'm reporting. Yeah. F96. Yeah.

E2 F96. So for example, NE network. Yeah, of course it's E is so do you want to report by Binance, not Ethereum because we are in Ethereum think tank. Yeah, let's put it by PSC. So then the project name, it really doesn't matter.

I'm just trying to showcase, right? So yeah, this project um is uh demo October 2025. Yeah, and that's the list I was telling you about. A big one, a huge one. Rug rugpool, NFT scam, man in the middle of real estate scams, extortion.

Oh, this is bad. Really, honestly. Yeah, I've seen that. That's cool. Terrorist financing, malicious smart contracts.

It really doesn't matter which one. For example, this one. Yeah. And now the way it works um the way that not that the way that it works the way that I build it is that everything here it's open it's [clears throat] public but the scam details uh are encrypted so that when you try to see the details of the report um the scam details the way that attackers did to create like a scam is not public only from the platform you can see after you authenticate. So only myself as admin or validators are they have the ability to see the the scam [clears throat] details.

I will show you in a second. For example, I'll see what should I say here is demo and crypto details. Yeah, crypto details. Okay. And link really doesn't matter.

Just local host. Yeah. Submit the report and then MetaMask pops up. Yeah. confirm and in a few seconds I should get the uh the confirmation.

Yeah, that's the transaction ID, right? So, if I check the transaction ID here, sorry, not activity. Why? I told you I did something which is really cool but it's not working. Let me double check.

It should work. Oh, I think I know. I Why second I saw in a second that it was like it's interesting. Just a second. That's not That's not right.

Yeah. Many tabs open. I think I'm on the right one. Yeah. [snorts] So, let me double check.

So, so, so few hours ago. Yeah, it didn't went through, but I can show you like I'll drag and drop. Uh, I think you see it right now. See it? It should it should be okay.

That's the the the contract. Yeah. with all the trans contract interaction contract interaction that's the test that I did a few hours ago. So basically what I want to show you guys is that yeah we input as UDF8. See it's encrypted.

So basically even though I get a DDOS attack even though the server goes down everything AWS it again it happens. Um I can still double check from uh within the uh the block explorer all the details. However, I cannot check the um uh the uh the scam details. Yeah, I can only see that it's encrypted. However, within the platform, for example, report 29, I guess.

Let me see. Yeah. only only this way I can see all the details but within the block explorer it's encrypted nobody knows the method that I used to encrypt all the details as you can see so basically this is why I find it really important for people to know that there are ways um a better ways to report um investigate and trace cryptocurrencies not using Um I mean I'm not saying that not using the big players. Of course they are in the in the space for for so long they are uh respected players. However, what I've seen in the space that uh when a crypto scam is evolved, well well, no, I just need a crypto forensic investigator that knows X and XY Z um tool to use because from my perspective um when you train a crypto forensic investigator, you should train him to be um um software agnostic.

So basically doesn't matter which tool it uses as long as he knows uh to apply procedures using open-source intelligence using open source tools you know doesn't need to be uh focused only on using XY Z uh tool because if it uses this kind of method it will be able to uh investigate and trace and uh uh solve problems really really fast and not depending on um uh a specific tool for example. Yeah. And that's the um that's basically how it works. So you can see if an address here is reported or not. No, because it's not the correct one.

But you can see it. You can see um here to validate or invalidate report. Uh you can basically add um additional details on a report if you found out that there are more uh stuff related to a specific scam. Um and also um yeah you can do pretty much everything that you need in order to report u a crypto scam. Um the thing is that um people uh when they are when they face um a crypto scam most of them um are afraid to report it because one uh the source of funds are not necessarily legal or they didn't report it to IRS or you know to financial institutions and basically well yeah I'll report that I lost I don't know 100k but when the the the police officer will ask me well the s of fund Well, you know, I didn't report it that I made some money out of crypto.

So, most of the of the of the scams remain basically unreported, unfortunately. So, yeah. Um it's kind of interesting um interesting situation going on here because people um are um relying only on police to to find out the real truth. whether you can choose um um a different approach and manage to find out the the truth yourself. So I think that's this is everything that I wanted to show you at at the moment.

Of course the tool it's on it's on progress because when I started building uh the tool um Mika wasn't uh in place in uh in Europe. Uh I've been working for almost uh nine months now I guess. Yeah. Uh so of course I started with two functions just report one address and then um I started to add more functions for example the network um project name scam details check the address all the functions that were that were new to me and interesting to add them to um to a suspicious activity report and um I'm hoping that at the end of the of the month or at the next month it will be like a fully on on mainet on uh the yeah on the mainet. So I uh I think this is that the the thing that I wanted to show uh to showcase uh in this interesting panel and I think this the the time for Q&A I guess.

Yeah.

Definitely. All right. So first of all, thank you so much Gabby for for showcasing your project. Uh yeah, open session for everyone to to ask questions. I see we already have somebody asking uh on the in call messages, right?

Alex, you want to take this uh aloud or shall I read it out for you? Oh, so I Okay, so any successful examples of what working with US entities? Uh nope, [clears throat] not yet. Uh okay. Is there any time limits to initiate the recovering of stolen funds since the incident happened?

When does it Okay. Um

let me just read it out aloud so that everyone can can understand like for the broader audience as well conscience that this is recorded too. So uh yeah basically some process questions from Alex. So uh you traced the hack to an existing making deposit to to a sex uh like CEX, right? Uh what next? How does the bounty hunter enforce recovering funds?

Right. And then we're going to take the next ones as well if you want to take the first one.

Yeah. So um so you trace the hack to address making and deposit tox. All right. Uh so we have address mapping basically using oint open source intelligence. We know that a specific address belongs to I don't know by bit or whatever binance it doesn't matter.

What next? Uh well we create a SAR suspicious activity report and we create um in that report we basically tell the the whole story from um the time zero when everything happened all the address involved all the transactions involved every that we can uh as user to identify plus what we can we as investigator trace up until uh Binance for or checks right then uh it's up to a prosecutor to move on and create that um season the sal letter or basically it's called um it has a specific name asset forfeite. So only on that uh jur judicial um act uh a legal approach can be u applied to a specific uh checks to give funds back or recover or relieve the uh release the identity of of the hacker. That's basically these are basically the the natural steps in an investigation

and then is

there are a lot of a lot of intermediary uh steps involved when we talk about tracing funds. Um but mainly yeah these are the the main one.

Sure.

And Alex was also asking whether you know any successful examples of uh that worked with US entities. So for example, somebody stealing funds from a DAO that didn't protect their smart contract for obvious flaws or left back doors in the code for insiders if any.

Uh yeah uh however uh due to nature of the matter I can no I cannot provide more details

but yeah not US European. All right. We're not going to name names right now, but uh I'm sure that [clears throat]

yeah, anyone can ask questions and take

not not but yeah um yeah I cannot provide more details unfortunately due the nature of the of the matter. Yeah,

it's definitely understandable. And is there a time limit to initiate the recovering of stolen funds since the incident happened? When does it become too late which is quite often [clears throat] I guess the case? I don't know. Yeah, the sooner the better of course.

However, due to nature of the blockchain, you can also report it uh to after two months, two years, I don't know. Everything is traceable and at some point the the the entity or the person that stole your funds will in the end um use fiat, right? Because they cannot pay their bills with crypto most of them. And then of course we apply the same thing and we will catch them in uh if when they uh convert it to to checks of course they are like new services u identity as a service for example in uh in um in eastern u of course in Iran of course there yeah that's the the country they used to have back in the days like centuries ago hala hala are people that are um basically are uh moving money from point A to point B. Well, these halas have now digitalized and use crypto and also they use a service called identity as a service where entities with big money pay them uh to use their identity to create accounts on on the checks.

So even though you find that you know I don't know ex person uh has an account on Binance and initiated the attack you're not 100% sure that that's the real person behind all the uh the attack you know so

it becomes too late um I don't think that it became too late because in the end you can have all the traceability and you can see in the end all the funds and yeah

if if you're lucky you can still recover them if they're not moved. If they're still dormant in an address, well, you can wait years, for example.

Yeah, it's a delicate question for either way. Um, opening the mic for uh Alex Trabano right now. I see he's uh he's raised his hand for a question. Alex, go ahead.

Yeah. So, Gabby, as you know, many crypto scams happen also off chain, for example, on Telegram. So they don't involve an address at least at first. And I was wondering is your tool offering a method or solution for such types of situations? Funny thing that you're asking me this the answer is not yet but working on it because I've become really interested in profiling cyber criminals using agentic AI.

Um I have uh some connections at the faculty of psychology here in Yash and I've been initiated some discussion related to how we can better profile cyber criminals but not the traditional cyber criminals that are using I don't know credit card scams or you know web two scams these ones using web three because the the way uh web three hacker thinks is so much different than the way that a web two hacker think. Uh so I'm really interested into embedded into I don't know um agentic AI into um detecting the intent behind the address not the uh the result the result being an address being hacked or a fund being stolen so on and so forth. So I'm really interested into embedding into the next version of Crypto Sentinel the intent.

Mhm. [clears throat] Mhm.

By intent I'm I'm I'm what I mean is that the way a user interacts with the mouse you know in a in a browser creates a pattern. Reading and understanding that pattern gives you an opportunity to uh better trace uh so identify the the intent and yes I am intending to use it in telegram as well. Um, TRM Labs also offers a telegram bot. Basically, it gives you a lot of alerts regarding um address that has been involved in a hack or maybe an address that you maybe its own address and uh you receive um at uh several hours or weeks some uh tokens, right? Some scammy tokens.

It gives you an alert. What I want to do with my uh telegram bot is to of course give alert regarding the intent of of use of an address.

Yeah, it's a lot of work I know but um the understanding what people uh intents are I think will transform us from reactive to proactive you know which is

yeah I believe will be very beneficial. Yeah. and also for the for the more normal users. And yeah,

yeah,

thanks a lot [clears throat] for answering.

Yeah,

I see we have another question here from Catalin. Uh K, you mind reading out your question or you want me to do it?

I think.

Yeah. So, it's not really like a question just an open discussion. So, I will just read what I said. So when we talk about Ethereum, we talk about tornado cashache which is the endgame probably for tracking on Ethereum and people can lose the track of their cyber criminality but of course they they cannot uh lose the the way they provided the money so they can justify the money and probably this is something that you took in consideration like as a limitation.

Yeah. uh also is not a limitation is more like um how should I call it uh like a myth because uh advanced tools uh like TRM labs or analysis reactive from analysis they have the capability to detect whether uh a token has been involved in in a cache for example yeah that you that you managed that you mentioned. Uh so there there are ways um advanced ways uh expensive ways to detect and also trace funds involved in a in a mixer or tumbler such as tornado cache. So it's not necessarily an endgame. It's a pain in the butt.

Let's put it this way. It's not the end game. We think to believe that it's an endgame because we as normal users we don't have uh the capabilities or knowledge or yeah tools to to check uh deeper but yeah there are ways which is a good thing right

yeah I suppose it's like something that rely on human behavior on blockchain that can make people um make mistakes and observe their patterns turns to to see where you get the the tokens. You'd be amazed how many hacks uh involved reused uh addresses because from time to time they are so lazy they forget that at some point they used an address in a different hack and basically we can you'd be amazed in the North Korean in the sorry in the bid hack where um how they um the North Koreans involved in the hack

Lazarus Lazarus group of course um there are 25,000 addresses reported so far, 25,000 in Bitcoin, Binance, uh, Ethereum, Solana, uh, Tron. What else? Yeah. And from what I've been investigating, I've seen addresses involved in the Wirex hack, involved in uh, transfers from 2017. So, they're lazy because if I will be a hacker, of course, I will create a new address, right?

But they are lazy from from time to time they forget that they [laughter] used an address in the previous act and they reuse it. So which is this is gold for us for example.

Maybe they don't care because they have like the protection of the country and they rely on that for a moment.

Yeah. But we know that Lazarus group it's a nation state funded organization right to protect their um nuclear program. Iran as well. Yeah.

So you should be professional. So maybe somebody from HR should be fired. North Korea,

I don't know if if they can be professional like communism and prof professional are two things that never stay in the same room.

I don't know. But it's a for me it's it's an HR problem. It's an HR problem.

Maybe this is also on purpose. I mean let's entertain the thought. Maybe you know it's speculative way. that you

Yeah. Uh I I was wondering also like I know that you were talking about uh protecting uh the reporters anonymity and you already have this built in, right? But as far as I understand it uh or correct me if I'm wrong like you haven't yet uh touched upon the idea of zero knowledge proofs, right? Or

not yet. No, not yet. Not yet. So is there like a plan to to use in the future maybe zero knowledge proofs or privacy preserving technologies like ZK Snarks and ZKVM?

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In the next iteration when it will be available.

All right. Cool. And also like um I was wondering whether so this this is basically could be a a very good uh public goods uh project and I was wondering whether you thought about this uh part whether you could have this project eventually plug into the Ethereum public goods funding mechanisms I don't know like bitcoin you know to sustain I can say like that validator participation and community rewards.

You see me smiling, so I think you've you get the idea, the answer. [laughter]

A lot of thoughts are going through my mind. Of course.

Okay.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead. Sorry. No, I just wanted to put it out there like if we can support obviously this this would be a cool project to put out there and um like promise Ethereum security like initiatives like do you see this platform integrating with existing uh existing Ethereum security initiatives like I don't know scam sniffer or ether scan tag system or anything like that.

Yeah, of course I'm not here to reinvent the wheel. I just wanted to put it to a better use. Of course.

So yeah. Yeah.

It would be of course amazing for me to see that I don't know a friend of mine told me that dude I used your tool embedded in etherscan that's so really cool you know come on I mean come on course to be like ex if you if you think about it like millions of people could use your tool. So when you put it like this in perspective, yeah, it's a really cool stuff.

And on that, I mean, you know, I guess you're thinking about the plan to position the platform within the existing obviously within the existing landscape of blockchain based security, which is

yeah, we know that there are a lot of like uh good projects and cool tools out there. I guess it would be a shame not to you know like tap into the potential for scalability and uh

yeah because basically how the way I see it is it's also um question of building a strategy for building trust right and adoption among users right

early users or users generally so um

especially considering private privacy sensitive context like cyber crime reporting Right.

Yeah, exactly.

Okay.

So, yeah, really good. What we can say for sure is that we are really living some interesting times. That's for sure. [laughter]

Hands down. Honestly. Honestly. Yeah.

Right. Uh does anybody else have any questions, guys? We still have like a couple of minutes left. if you want to step up and ask your question or uh if not you can I'm sure uh eventually reach out to Gabby Gabby already on our telegram channel on cluj

it's exactly like that handle eat so make sure to reach out to him uh if you have more questions um and other than that I I guess nobody else

see you at e clues Right.

For sure. And

a few weeks. In a few weeks, be no next week. Well, next week, man. Next week. [laughter]

But joking. I was joking.

It's gonna be next year. But we'll we'll announce the dates uh hopefully very soon.

So stay uh stay tuned, guys. And also looking forward to hosting you again, Gabby, in our think tech sessions. We are working on a couple of other projects. So we're hoping to hear on that

probably after Defcon connect. So we'll announce it as soon as as soon as we have the dates.

Nice, nice, nice.

Thank you again for your presentation and taking the time [clears throat]

and for that you do and

thank you so much.

Thanks to everyone for attending

and and also thank you guys for creating the context for us to be here because you guys rock. [laughter]

Yeah. Thank you so much Gabby. Thank you so much.

Cheers.

Have a nice evening. Have a nice day, everyone.

I catch you. Bye.

Bye. Bye. Bye.